{"id":2771,"date":"2018-09-27T15:23:08","date_gmt":"2018-09-27T19:23:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/aadb_entrevue\/"},"modified":"2019-02-21T16:27:01","modified_gmt":"2019-02-21T21:27:01","slug":"aadb_interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/en\/aadb_interview\/","title":{"rendered":"A look back at Andr\u00e9e-Anne Dupuis Bourret\u2019s &#8220;Travaux pratiques&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id='nouvellesheader'  class='avia-section av-1bsup2q-b7ef7bac3fe97465fc6da04b9c959672 main_color avia-section-default avia-no-border-styling  avia-builder-el-0  el_before_av_section  avia-builder-el-first  avia-bg-style-scroll container_wrap fullsize'  ><div class='container av-section-cont-open' ><main  role=\"main\" itemprop=\"mainContentOfPage\"  class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-2771'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<section  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class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image- avia-img-lazy-loading-not- avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Janie_banni\u00e8re.jpg\" alt='' title=''   itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\"  \/><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-zlxxwy-2fed38098630ae2ffb583400e1be0bde '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" >\n<div id='post-nouvelle'>\n<div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix standard-content'>\n<header class='entry-content-header'>\n\t<span class='post-meta-infos' style='text-align:center;';>\n\t\t<time class='date-container minor-meta updated' >09-27-2018<\/time>\n\t<\/span>\n\t<h2 class='post-title entry-title' itemprop='headline' >A look back at Andr\u00e9e-Anne Dupuis Bourret\u2019s &#8220;Travaux pratiques&#8221;<\/h2>\n<\/header>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/section>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-yde2pu-8b6ea6315141b3c79f88c4a06adddc04 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p class=\"slogan medium\">The storefront as a moving landscape.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<\/div><\/section>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-x15ypu-67095b277849775264dd9e2a7cbf3498\">\n.flex_column.av-x15ypu-67095b277849775264dd9e2a7cbf3498{\nborder-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\npadding:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='flex_column av-x15ypu-67095b277849775264dd9e2a7cbf3498 av_one_full  avia-builder-el-9  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_hr  first flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding  column-top-margin'     ><section  class='av_textblock_section av-uitv3m-df599198a55e00302a96db91e99daced '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p><strong>Andr\u00e9e-Anne Dupuis Bourret<\/strong> is currently completing her project entitled <em>Travaux pratiques<\/em> (practical work), an installative interface, integrated to L\u2019imprimerie\u2019s storefront from July to September. Patiently, consistently, the artist took over the space, filling it with fragments of screen-printed paper, various objects, and odd elements of landscape. Rigorously invested in this exercise, she spent a whole day every week configuring, reconfiguring, filming and taking pictures of the space. Now that the project is reaching its conclusion, we asked her to share with us her impressions.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-pta1g2-0009752a4086e0b38cd8dd5b4a3c29d9\">\n#top .hr.av-pta1g2-0009752a4086e0b38cd8dd5b4a3c29d9{\nmargin-top:50px;\nmargin-bottom:60px;\n}\n.hr.av-pta1g2-0009752a4086e0b38cd8dd5b4a3c29d9 .hr-inner{\nwidth:100%;\nborder-color:#000000;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-pta1g2-0009752a4086e0b38cd8dd5b4a3c29d9 hr-custom  avia-builder-el-11  el_after_av_one_full  el_before_av_one_half  hr-center hr-icon-no'><span class='hr-inner inner-border-av-border-thin'><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-x15ypu-67095b277849775264dd9e2a7cbf3498\">\n.flex_column.av-x15ypu-67095b277849775264dd9e2a7cbf3498{\nborder-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\npadding:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='flex_column av-x15ypu-67095b277849775264dd9e2a7cbf3498 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-12  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_one_half  first flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding  '     ><section  class='av_textblock_section av-uitv3m-df599198a55e00302a96db91e99daced '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p><strong>What was the work\u2019s initial intent, and how did you manage to take possession of this space?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I wanted to use my presence in <em>L\u2019\u00c9crin<\/em> as an opportunity to engage in practical work, using objects present in the studio\u2014artefacts, or commercial objects\u2014, taking them out of their original context and into the storefront, as if <em>L\u2019\u00c9crin<\/em> was an open studio.<\/p>\n<p>Whereas an exhibition tends to be a well-defined object, <em>L\u2019\u00c9crin<\/em> is more akin to the studio experience. It sheds light on the repetitive acts that are part of the artist\u2019s everyday reality. When I open up my studio to the public it is usually through my blog; I found <em>L\u2019\u00c9crin<\/em> brought the same visual coherence to my way of working.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-stgaci-361c9faed934d2f4847e6e34be78f817\">\n.flex_column.av-stgaci-361c9faed934d2f4847e6e34be78f817{\nborder-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\npadding:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='flex_column av-stgaci-361c9faed934d2f4847e6e34be78f817 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-14  el_after_av_one_half  el_before_av_hr  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding  '     ><style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-qs56mq-75adcff829813365018051e878edabe5\">\n.avia-image-container.av-qs56mq-75adcff829813365018051e878edabe5 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-qs56mq-75adcff829813365018051e878edabe5 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-qs56mq-75adcff829813365018051e878edabe5 av-styling- avia-align-center  avia-builder-el-15  avia-builder-el-no-sibling '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2756 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2756 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/P1190735-580x1030.jpg\" alt='' title='P1190735'  height=\"1030\" width=\"580\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/P1190735-580x1030.jpg 580w, https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/P1190735-169x300.jpg 169w, https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/P1190735-768x1365.jpg 768w, https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/P1190735-844x1500.jpg 844w, https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/P1190735-397x705.jpg 397w, https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/P1190735-450x800.jpg 450w, https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/P1190735.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 580px) 100vw, 580px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-pta1g2-0009752a4086e0b38cd8dd5b4a3c29d9\">\n#top .hr.av-pta1g2-0009752a4086e0b38cd8dd5b4a3c29d9{\nmargin-top:50px;\nmargin-bottom:60px;\n}\n.hr.av-pta1g2-0009752a4086e0b38cd8dd5b4a3c29d9 .hr-inner{\nwidth:100%;\nborder-color:#000000;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-pta1g2-0009752a4086e0b38cd8dd5b4a3c29d9 hr-custom  avia-builder-el-16  el_after_av_one_half  el_before_av_one_full  hr-center hr-icon-no'><span class='hr-inner inner-border-av-border-thin'><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-x15ypu-67095b277849775264dd9e2a7cbf3498\">\n.flex_column.av-x15ypu-67095b277849775264dd9e2a7cbf3498{\nborder-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\npadding:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='flex_column av-x15ypu-67095b277849775264dd9e2a7cbf3498 av_one_full  avia-builder-el-17  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_one_full  first flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding  '     ><section  class='av_textblock_section av-uitv3m-df599198a55e00302a96db91e99daced '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p><strong>How did passersby react?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In an urban setting, people have a lot to look at: storefronts and shop windows have become commonplace. Many passersby do not even see this window as anything different. People in this neighbourhood have other things on their minds, like trying to make a living. This situation makes me wonder what it is I am doing here as an artist.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-o8fklu-0348bb1e9b3e42c14068299e1f0b12dc\">\n.flex_column.av-o8fklu-0348bb1e9b3e42c14068299e1f0b12dc{\nborder-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\npadding:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='flex_column av-o8fklu-0348bb1e9b3e42c14068299e1f0b12dc av_one_full  avia-builder-el-19  el_after_av_one_full  el_before_av_one_full  first flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding  column-top-margin'     ><style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-mda3aa-a3302844d8b171eeffb256066e07d5b3\">\n.avia-image-container.av-mda3aa-a3302844d8b171eeffb256066e07d5b3 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-mda3aa-a3302844d8b171eeffb256066e07d5b3 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-mda3aa-a3302844d8b171eeffb256066e07d5b3 av-styling- avia-align-center  avia-builder-el-20  avia-builder-el-no-sibling '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2760 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2760 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/AADB_dehaut_banniere.png\" alt='' title='AADB_dehaut_banniere'  height=\"563\" width=\"1000\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/AADB_dehaut_banniere.png 1000w, https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/AADB_dehaut_banniere-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/AADB_dehaut_banniere-768x432.png 768w, https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/AADB_dehaut_banniere-705x397.png 705w, https:\/\/limprimerie.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/AADB_dehaut_banniere-450x253.png 450w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-lfltb6-59d848bb75dfb99576d149b22e7e2fd0\">\n.flex_column.av-lfltb6-59d848bb75dfb99576d149b22e7e2fd0{\nborder-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\npadding:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='flex_column av-lfltb6-59d848bb75dfb99576d149b22e7e2fd0 av_one_full  avia-builder-el-21  el_after_av_one_full  el_before_av_hr  first flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding  column-top-margin'     ><section  class='av_textblock_section av-jrzgsi-537b396db4ff30258c310de0d591ab45 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p><strong>Surprises<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Another interesting element was the way visibility varies depending on the time of day and weather. When it is sunny, <em>L\u2019\u00c9crin<\/em> acts as a mirror for the street. The photos taken then show more about what is going on across the street than on L\u2019imprimerie\u2019s side. There is always a veil. I had not thought about this component when I first started the project. These pictures have become a sort of chronicle of everyday life.<\/p>\n<p>In the afternoon, hordes of joggers take to the streets (L\u2019imprimerie is right next to a gym). When I\u2019m filming, runners generate motion on the video footage.<\/p>\n<p>The planters outside of the studio also interact with certain elements in <em>L\u2019\u00c9crin<\/em>, creating confusion between interior and exterior. Add to that the construction signs and neighbouring architecture, and you now see that the storefront is part of a much larger environment.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The aftermath\u2014What do you think will remain of your time in L\u2019\u00c9crin after the next artist takes your place?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Questions mostly. Filming <em>L\u2019\u00c9crin<\/em> and my every action within it has led me to rethink my approach to space. 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